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DEVIL- POSSESSED CHRISTIANS

Updated: Apr 19



The issue of "Devil Possession of Christians" is one of the strangest issues I've had to deal with over the years. People seem to become very emotionally unhinged over the idea.

So, I hope that you are approaching this from a standpoint of wanting to hear/read the facts and not become too emotionally invested for good conversation. And I say that because, sadly, a number of folks have all but cursed me for disagreeing with them on this issue. (Which might suggest that some of them have a devil in them, in my opinion.)

But with the opening disclaimer, I will tell you that I absolutely do believe that Christians are capable of murder, rape, incest, lies, theft, etc., and that if a Christian opens themselves up to devil possession then that absolutely can happen.

As a matter of fact, I believe I've dealt with more devils-in-skin inside of Bible believing churches ("evangelical" and "fundamental" by profession) than I have on the streets or anywhere else for that matter.

You make a very important observation when you wrote: "I cannot find a single example of a born again believer being possessed in the Bible."

But I challenge you to look closely at the accounts of devil possession (the Biblical word is not "demon" but "devil", which is due to the fact that pagan's believe "demons" are good and helpful and do not associate them with the Devil [Satan] or anyone/anything inherently evil).

Why didn't the accounts tell us that AFTER casting out the devil, Jesus confronted them with their need of salvation?


Examples:


(1) Matthew 4:24-25 (KJB) "And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them. And there followed him great multitudes of people from Galilee, and from Decapolis, and from Jerusalem, and from Judaea, and from beyond Jordan."

There is nothing here (or anywhere in the context) where we are told that Jesus called on these people (having had devils cast out) to believe on Him. Why not? If these were all lost souls, why did Jesus fail to confront them with their need to believe on Him? This happens again here:

(2) Matthew 8:16-17 (KJB) "When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick: That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses."

Why were these lost souls not called on to believe on Jesus and be saved? And if this were just a couple of cases, that would not be convincing but you see this over and over in the Gospel accounts. Later in Matthew 8, the were two possessed with devils among the Gergesenes. And, yet, after Jesus cast the devils out there is nothing about Jesus calling on the two men to believe on Him or be saved. (Luke 8:26-39 also)

It happens that way numerous times, including the dumb man possessed with a devil in Matthew 9:32. Not a word about calling on that man to believe on Jesus and be saved.

However, there are times when people got saved and devils IMMEDIATELY came out of them. That appears to be an obvious case of an unsaved man or woman having devils cast out as a result of believing on Jesus. An example of this would be Philip preaching in Acts 8:4-8.

BUT then there is the case of the devil-possessed woman in Acts 16:16-24. She is making a profession of faith in the salvation message of the apostles WHILE being possessed with a devil (and being "soothsaying"). She is saying, "These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation." (Verse 17) Now, that doesn't prove she is a Christian but AFTER having the devil cast out of her, there is nothing said about the apostles appealing to her to BE saved, at all. Not a word.

Did the apostles (and Paul, specifically) fail to present the Gospel to an unsaved lady after casting a devil out of her? If she was unsaved, how in the world could they NOT? Could it be that her profession was genuine and that this lady was a Christian who was under the oppression and possession of a foul "spirit" (verse 18)?

So, based upon the information in Scripture (and not based upon the emotional arguments made by folks who, for some reason, think that such a thing is "unthinkable" and so forth), I believe that those who do not warn Christians of the possibility of possession, OR those who outright deny such a thing is possible, are actually disarming believers and setting them up for such terrible outcomes.

And since most teachers and churches "of like faith" with our ministry are doing just that, it might help explain why so many of them are crumbling all around us. Church buildings and organizations filled with devil-possessed Christians sowing discord, inviting the wicked inside, living in the flesh and married to the world?

Of course, many will tell you that such churches and their pastors "probably just aren't saved". And in some or many cases that may be true. But I don't think it is so in all or even most cases.

I think that taking the Bible at face value, we should warn believers that just as surely as a parasite can enter and possess your body by physical means (food, drink, injection, penetration, etc.), so could a spirit if you open the door to let them in.

And, though I've made this a bit lengthy, I do want to add that the attempts to counter Biblical information as presented above, are not logical or Biblical. For example, some say, "The Holy Spirit would not allow a foul spirit to enter the body of a believer."

But that is not true, at all. Every saved person already has a sinful nature inside the same body where the Holy Spirit resides:


Romans 7:18 (KJB) "For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not."


Romans 8:9 (KJB) "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."

Based upon those texts (and others) we are not IN the flesh (positionally) but still must live in this body of flesh (practically) and inside this fleshly body "dwelleth no good thing" (so far as we in our nature are concerned). And, yet, the Spirit is IN there with the "no good thing" that we are.

And right there IN our body is the Spirit of God even as we have (hopefully on only rare occasions but, nonetheless, all too often) sinful thoughts, lusts and desires. Believers (should not but DO all too often) commit sexual sins with that same body that houses the Spirit of God. Such a thing should be the exception (and I believe IS in the life of a real Christian) but it does happen.

So, the idea that the Spirit of God would not (or could not) dwell in a body of a Christian who lets a devil inside... just isn't based on Scripture or logic.


 



Demons, devils, Satan, and other aspects of the "supernatural" have in the last few years become a fascination among many Christians. Several books have been written and sermons preached speaking about the amount of access or contact those in the spiritual realm have with mortal man. Opinions vary greatly as to the amount of influence or control Satan can have over a Christian. Some claim the Devil has relatively little influence over a believer while others insist Satan can actually "possess" a Christian much as he can a lost person. What does the Bible say about Satan and his demon's influence over believers? Is Satan of little threat to Christians or is he a formidable adversary that can actually rule or control a believers life?


That Satan has some access to Christains is of little dispute among believers. The Bible plainly says Satan can tempt a believer to sin and further influence him for evil. The question we will address in this "Taboo Text" is, what are the limits of Satan's influence, and is demon possession of a Christian a possibility. The large majority of Christians don't believe a born again Christian can in any manner be possessed by a devil or demon, but facts and truth are not determined my majority opinion. The final authority for ALL matters is the Holy Bible (KJB) and there is where we will look for our answers.


What Do You Mean, "Devils"?


Anyone that has read the Bible at all knows it speaks of people being possessed by "devil(s)" or "unclean spirits." Christ and His disciples dealt with possessed people regularly and always cast the invading spirits out (Matt. 4:24; Mark 6:7, etc.). As to how these spirits originated or became evil, the Bible is mostly silent. There is some indication they may be the spirits of the "sons of God" who took on flesh and came unto the "daughters of men" in Noah's day and later died in the flood (Gen. 6:1-4), but there is no proof that is the case. Others suggest they are angels that chose to rebel with Lucifer (Isa. 14; Eze. 28) before man's creation and subsequently became "devils," but there is no clear proof of this either. Instead of speculating as to their origin, let's look at what can be known; what the Scriptures do reveal.


Mark 5:1-20 is the definitive passage on demon possession and its effects in the Bible. Some of the details about demons the Bible reveals in this passage are:

1. Devils want to be near dead human bodies or tombs (vs. 2, 3, 5). 2. They can cause unusual strength (vs. 3-4). 3. They can make a person unreasonable or immune to sensible persuasion (vs. 4). 4. They cause excessive crying (vs. 5). 5. They cause sadistic and masochistic behavior (vs. 5). 6. They have an affinity for heights (vs. 5). 7. They recognize Christ as "the Son of God" and appeal to Him (vs. 6-7). 8. They know they deserve torment and dread it (vs. 6-7). 9. They have names (vs. 9). 10. More than one can possess the same body (vs. 9). 11. They desire to stay in the same geographical region or "country" (vs. 10). 12. They would rather indwell an animal body than none at all (vs. 12). 13. They can cause animals to kill themselves (vs. 13). 14. They desire to be in a body when it dies (vs. 13). 15. They have a desire for water (vs. 13).

Mark 9:17-29 gives us even more details about devils:

16. They can cause dumbness and deafness (vs. 17, 25). 17. They cause rabid animal like behavior (vs. 18). 18. They can indwell from childhood (vs. 21). 19. They cause suicidal behavior (vs. 22). 20. They resist leaving a body and violently "rent" it while leaving (vs. 26). 21. There are different kinds of devils. Some have more power than others (vs. 29). 22. Some can only be removed by prayer and fasting of believer (vs. 29).

Ephesians 6:12 states Satan has a hierarchy of "devils" in his kingdom, "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Thus some devils have more power and authority than others.


In Daniel 10:13 (as well as Mark 9:29) there is an example of this. "The prince of the kingdom of Persia" withstood the angel sent to explain Daniel's vision to him for 21 days. He could only break free when the angel Michael came and helped him overcome the powerful "prince." The "prince" may have been Satan, but more likely he was a very powerful devil.


How Does Possession Come About?


The Bible says very little about what gives devils the "right" to possess someone. Obviously, demons cannot possess anyone at any given time or all people would (or could) be possessed from birth. Thus there must be some sort of threshold one must pass which gives devils freedom to invade his body. When Adam chose to obey the Serpent (through Eve) instead of God, he, in effect, gave his "dominion" over the earth and all that was in it to Satan (Gen. 3). This is how Satan became "the god of this world." God originally gave the earth to Adam (Gen. 1:28), but Adam through his eating of the tree of knowledge forfeited it to Satan. This is why the Devil has a "right of access" to every man (even Christ, Matt. 4), because the world and everything in it is under his dominion. This is one of the reasons Christ had to come to earth and die as a man; to redeem back what Adam lost. But until Christ returns as found in Revelation chapter 19, His redemption of the earth will not be applied. So even though Christ has already paid the redemption price, it has only been applied to a Christian's soul and nothing else, including the earth. Therefore, Satan still has limited control and dominion over the earth and every thing in it.


The features that most distinguish man from animals is man was originally created in the image of God and has a free will. These were both manifested in Adam in the garden. Adam chose to follow the Serpent's word rather than God's and we all suffer the consequences of his actions. But the same is before us today. We can choose whom we will serve. We can serve the true God according to the Bible or we can serve Satan through the guise of "self will," and "worldliness." Satan does not portray himself as a devil to man, he is best manifested by self will and desire; by people following what they think is their own thoughts and way. This is the same way he beguiled Eve and influenced Adam. He got Eve to believe her opinion of the tree was more accurate and reliable than God's! Adam knew better, but when he had to choose he selfishly chose Eve over God, and as a result brought subjection of himself and all descendants to Satan and death! Both Adam's and Eve's acts were deliberate self will. So from this we can conclude, and it concurs with the experiences of those who have dealt with demon possession, that the more one moves toward Satan's methods and mentality (self will, occult, etc.) the more susceptible he becomes to Satan's domain and influence, even to the point of possession.


Those who have much experience with demon possession claim persons usually became possessed by dabbling in the occult and "experimenting" with the "supernatural." These are areas which have been Satan's domain since the beginning and when anyone moves, by choice, in that direction (whether ignorantly or not) are opening themselves to demonic attack. 2 Pet 1:3 says, "According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue," thus everything a person needs to live and be godly comes from God, but when someone strays away from God and seeks things He is not the source of (but Satan is), then God often allows them to suffer the consequences of their choice.

Some of the occult activities and movements that are Satan's domain and should be shunned by everyone, especially Christians. Failure to do so may have devastating consequences. CLICK HERE.


Oppression And Possession Of Believers?


To sum up what we learned above, we know Satan and devils do exist, we know they are unembodied spirits that work in the spiritual realm, they desire to and are able to indwell humans (also animals) and influence their bodies and minds for evil, they vary in power and authority, but all are more powerful than man, and they can be controlled or cast out by the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ. But how much power does a devil have over a Christian? Can devils or demons control a believer as they can a lost person?

The Bible mentions basically two types of satanic or demonic influence or control over men:

1. Satanic or Demonic Oppression, where Satan or devils contact and influence people externally; from the outside in.
2. Demon Indwelling or Possession, where the devils actually dwell inside the person, influencing and manipulating him internally.

Practically all will agree Satan has access to every believer from the outside to tempt him and appeal to his self-will, in effort to make him useless for the Lord. Else why would the Bible warn believers to "resist the Devil" (James 4:7) and "neither give place to the Devil" (Eph. 4:27)? However, few will allow Satan's power to go so far as a devil actually indwelling or possessing a believer. Granted, the thought of a foreign spirit controlling a Christian's body and mind for destruction and evil is one of the most harrowing thoughts one could imagine and no sensible believer would want such a thing to occur, but what are the facts? Is it possible? To find the truth we must ignore all emotional appeals and simply examine the biblical facts.


Over the years, while reading and discussing demon possession with other Christian's, your author has found many are repulsed by even the suggestion that a Christian may be susceptible to demon possession. They talk as if one is extremely ignorant or even demented to even think such a thing, but when asked for their biblical proof that it is not possible, their position becomes desperate. They simply cannot produce a passage or verse that PROVES their argument, yet they still cling to their belief.


Over the years your author has found that all the arguments against demon possession of Christians are either based purely on emotion or on a misapplication of Scripture. You may be thinking, "Are you saying a Christian can be demon possessed? No, I didn't say that. What I am saying is there is no place in the Bible that conclusively says Christians can't be possessed. But, on the contrary, there are passages that seem to indicate (though not conclusively prove) that demon possession of believers CAN occur.


When asked for reasons why they think Christians can't be demon possessed one will usually hear, "It's not possible for the Holy Spirit and a demon to dwell in the same body," "It is unthinkable to believe the Holy Spirit would let a devil in a Christian's body, which is God's temple," A born again believer has been redeemed by the blood of Christ and because of that no devil can indwell him," etc., etc. But such arguments are purely emotional without a single Bible verse to stand on. These people have convinced themselves of something that is not true because of the repulsiveness of the question, but emotion and feelings do not make "sound doctrine."


Arguments Examined


As for the argument the Holy Spirit will not dwell with a devil in the same body, we ask, why not? There is no verse we know of that even suggests this is impossible. Furthermore, the Holy Spirit dwells in the same body the Christian dwells in, and the old nature of a Christian is as wicked as the devil if not more so. Have you not read, "The heart is deceitful ABOVE ALL THINGS, and desperately wicked: who can know it" (Jer. 17:9)? The heart of man, including Christians, is extremely wicked. When it comes to a inclination toward evil and ability to sin, Satan has nothing on man's deceitful heart. Though the Devil has much more power than man to bring his evil intentions to pass, there is no proof he has more of a capacity for evil than man. In fact Jeremiah 17:9 indicates man may be more deceitful than he! When a born again Christian yields to his old nature and sins, the Holy Spirit is no less exposed to evil than if a devil was indwelling the believer!


Another argument against possession is since the believer has been born again, redeemed by the blood of Christ, and Satan has been defeated at the cross, Satan has no right of access to the believer's body, but this is just more wishful thinking. True, Satan is a defeated foe, but he has not been taken out of the picture yet and won't be until Revelation 20:10. Furthermore, even though Christ's blood is sufficient to redeem all things, all things, including a Christian's body, have not yet been redeemed (Rom. 8:23). When a Christian receives Christ nothing happens to his body. The believer's soul is redeemed and his spirit reborn but his body remains unchanged. The proof is his body can still die and decay.

The only nature a lost man has is the fallen, Adamic nature he was born with, and through it Satan has full access to him. Christians also have this old, fallen nature and will retain it until death or the rapture, and since it, in itself, is no different than the lost man's, Satan still has access to them too (Eph. 4:27). That Christians also have a new, righteous nature they received when they were born again (which is actually Christ's very own nature and not susceptible to Satan's attacks, Eph. 4:24), does not alter the fact their body is yet unredeemed and their "old man" is still vulnerable to satanic temptation, oppression or even more (Eph. 4:22-32).


When asked to produce Scriptural support or proof that it is impossible for a Christian to be possessed, one verse that is almost universally referred to is 1 John 4:4, "Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world." This verse is quoted as if it removes any threat of satanic or demonic influence over a believer, but look at the passage closely. John is simply reassuring believers they are of God, over comers in Christ, and have the ultimate victory over spirits that "confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh" (1 Jn. 4:3).


When a person is born again he is placed in Christ and Christ comes in him, and the believers destiny with Christ is certain. John is here comforting believers by reminding them of this and reassures them by insisting there is nothing Satan or anyone else can do about it. He is not saying believers are immune any type of satanic influence or cannot suffer in the flesh. As we have seen, other passages clearly state Satan does have access to believers. In fact Peter said to believers, "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may DEVOUR" (1 Pet 5:8).


The Case For Possession


As we stated earlier, we know of no passage in the Bible that says, in so many words, that a Christian can be demon possessed. But as we have just seen, there is no verse that conclusively says one can't. However, there is a passage or two that strongly suggests the possibility of possession and they deserve examination.

In 2 Cor 11:3-4 Paul makes a rather revealing statement about Christians and other spirits, "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtility, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him."


By saying, "if ye receive ANOTHER SPIRIT, which ye have NOT received" Paul is indicating that a Christian who already has the Holy Spirit can receive another spirit besides! Some may argue Paul is speaking to lost people in the Corinthian church, but that doesn't hold up. First, Paul is concerned their minds have been corrupted by Satan (through a false teacher) from the simplicity of receiving and resting in Christ for salvation. He said in verse 2 he was "jealous over [them] with a godly jealously: for I have espoused you to one husband..." that is, Christ. Paul wouldn't espouse lost people to Christ. Furthermore, he says they could receive "ANOTHER spirit" which they did not receive previously (when he was with them). The Spirit they received when he presented them the gospel was the Holy Spirit! He also said they could receive another (false) gospel which they "have not [previously] accepted." This indicates they accepted the true gospel while Paul was with them because the "another gospel" was not preached by him. I know this passage is somewhat confusing, but read it carefully with prayer and the Lord will help us understand.


Paul was aggravated with the Corinthians because after he presented them the gospel and they accepted it, someone else came along preaching another Jesus, gospel, and offering another spirit other than what Paul preached. Paul bluntly and somewhat sarcastically tells them if they think they will fare better with the other Jesus, gospel, and spirit, "ye might well bear with him" (the false teacher). The point we are trying to make, however, is the possibility of a Christian being able to accept and receive another Jesus (demons have been known to call themselves "Jesus" to fool people), gospel, and spirit is implied in this passage. Since they already had the Holy Spirit, the only other spirits that indwell people are devils. Though angels are "ministering spirits," there is no indication in the Bible that angels can indwell anyone. There is nothing to indicate Paul was referring to something that was impossible for them. Christians still have their free will after they receive Christ.


In light of the above one could ask, "If a Christian could be possessed, is the possession as extensive as that of a possessed lost person?" Here we must answer "yes and no." If it is true a Christian can be possessed he cannot be completely possessed because there is a part of every believer (the new nature) that is of God and is incorruptible; Satan can't touch it. If a believer is possessed, he is only possessed in his old, Adamic nature. This is unlike the lost man who only has the old nature; therefore, if he is possessed, he is completely possessed. But, on the other hand, to the Christian who is possessed (if possible), the possession would have the same effect as it would to a lost person. The person's body and mind would be subject to a devil.


One may ask, here, and it is a reasonable question, "Why would the Lord allow one of His children to become possessed since He indwells him and has redeemed him?" But let's not stop with just this question. Why would the Lord allow a blood-bought believer to fall in love with the world and live after the flesh after he gets saved? Why would He allow them to lie, cheat, steal, deceive, cause trouble with other believers, ruin his testimony, malign God's name, be vain, proud, arrogant, envious, jealous, and a dozen other sins and vices? The simple answer is God does not override or nullify man's free will.


If a man has no free will he is little more than a robot. God wants people to choose to be saved by Him (no Hyper-Calvinism here) and also choose to live for Him once saved. If a believer insists in following his own will and ignores God's will for him, then the Lord will chastise him one way or another (sometimes the results of self-will and living after the flesh bring their own chastisement). And if a believer by dabbling in the occult or otherwise moving toward Satan's domain ends up getting oppressed or even possessed by devils, then the believer has no one to blame but himself. God admonishes, warns, and instructs His children in His word, but any who fail to heed His word usually suffer the consequences for their actions. There are many professing Christians in prisons and hospitals today for that very reason.


The Voice Of Experience


Though your author has no personal experience in dealing with demons (other than sometimes sensing their presence), there are several Christians who have much experience. One is German researcher Kurt Koch, author of "Occult ABC" and many other books about demons and the occult. He said the following concerning Christians and demon possession,

"One question is hotly disputed among believing Christians. This is the question whether or not a Christian can be possessed. Many years of experience lead me to the conclusion that those who have no experience of dealing with the possessed say "no." Those, who have counseled many possessed ones, know that even believers can be controlled or ruled by demons. These facts do not follow anyone's preconceived ideas. Our ideas must be formed, rather, on the basis of the facts."I have had many discussions on this subject, particularly in America. I am therefore more thankful for the men who confirm my own experience. Among these are Dr. Edman, former president of Wheaton College, professor [Merrill] Unger.... When I lectured in various countries, there were other men in conversations who declared they had counseled more demon-possessed believers than unbelievers..."

A Final Word


The reason we published this article was not to unduly scare anyone or try to stir up controversy, but to warn Christians who may have a false sense of security about demon possession. From talking to several fellow believers we have found most dismiss the possibility of demon possession of believers for purely emotional reasons and are not familiar enough with what the Bible says on the subject to make a knowledgeable comment. They simply don't want it to be true and like a small child think wishing it so will make it so. But as we have seen, the Bible makes no such promise about possession and actually suggests it may be possible so the safest position a believer could take is even though the Bible doesn't definitely say either way one must allow for the possibility. This is the only sensible approach. Unless one is absolutely certain there is no danger ahead, it is always prudent, in whatever circumstance, to assume the possibility of danger. This is prudent behavior whether one driving in his car or dealing with matters the Bible does not address specifically. Christians can have confidence and security about their salvation, their destiny, their Bible, and their Lord because of what the Bible says, but in areas the Bible is silent, confidence can be misplaced.


Even if demon possession of a Christian is not possible, that, in itself, is of little consolation. Until death or the rapture the ONLY part of a believer that is secure and beyond harm is his redeemed soul. Everything else he has can be lost or destroyed and is subject to satanic control or manipulation. Satan can take or destroy a Christian's health, body, spouse, children, money, job, testimony, church, Bible, rewards, peace, contentment, safety, security, and even his mind without possessing him! Again, nothing is secure but his soul, and Satan can even convince a believer he can take it too! The Devil is a powerful and formidable adversary and those Christians who smugly make light of his abilities and dabble in things the Bible warns against are teetering on the very edge of disaster.


"There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." Prov. 14:12



Five Paths Toward Demon Oppression and Possession

1. Dabble in the occult and paranormal. By engaging in occult and most paranormal activities such as astrology, fortune-telling, clarivoyence, etc., you are entering Satan's arena and opening yourself to demonic attack.
2. Seek aid or enlightenment from foreign spiritual influences. Passively yielding one's mind through meditation, hypnotism, yoga, etc., and seeking knowledge or information from any type of "spiritual entity" is an excellent way to become demon possessed.
3. Seek power or authority from a supernatural source. Using witchcraft, sorcery, magic, charms, voodoo, etc., to give yourself power or influence over others in a supernatural manner is asking Satan to use you.
4. Use or become addicted to drugs or alcohol. Anything that alters one's senses and places him in a passive state can allow the entrance of devils. Many under the influence of drugs or alcohol have claimed to see demons or the Devil.
5. Remain addicted to one's self. Neglecting prayer, Bible study, fellowship, witnessing, and other faith building activities can cause one to dwell constantly upon himself. He is following after Satan's will and not God's will.

 

As I'd said in 'choo choo'


...A demon possessed Christian isn't just completely blinded by pride, self exaltation, and general madness against any authority higher than themselves out of the blue, it often comes as a result of getting a prick / conviction / reproof /correction from the Holy Spirit, (2 Tim 3.16, Acts 6.10 & 9.5, 2 Peter 2.16, 2 Sam 23.2, Ezek 2.2) but instead of thanking God for it, (Eph 5.20, Psalm 141.5) they stiffen their neck, refuse to admit (or even run it by God himself) that they're in error, (the horror!) and then start attacking, chasing, or looking an emotional reaction (as effeminate and insecure as any beta male trait one could sadly witness) out of the ass (Num 22.29-32) that God used to do so. Its basically them reacting with Prov 24.29, then carrying out vs 28. Which can even go so far as looking to ruin the one that God used financially, their relationships or their reputation. Which isn't actually logical, so 9 times out of 10, in the Christian life, if it isn't logical, then its spiritual. Proof of when its going on I've noticed is when they suddenly start seeking confirmation bias, find another person or group (saved or lost, but usually also under the same mechanism btw!) to cross paths (seemingly at random, deceiving them that its 'meant to be' as remember, they haven't asked God for direction nor discernment) to support each others sudden, new found 'holy endevours', and create an echo chamber for each other.


...Remember demons are typified (Rom 1.20) by small winged animals such as flies, (Luke 11.15, Psalm 78.45, Ecc 10.1, Psalm 118.12, Judges 14.8, 2 Kings 1.2, Rev 16.13) and they are attracted to lights in the dark. (Luke 11.35, John 12.46, Rom 13.12, 2 Cor 4.6, 2 Peter 1.19, 1 John 1.7) Ever leave front door open at night with hall light on and get invaded by flies? Laodicean, Alexandrian Christians are houses with open doors. (1 Cor 3.15-17 & 6.19-20, 2 Cor 5.1-4, 2 Peter 1.13, John 2.21)


...when God has me delay a post, he starts sending me other situations that I can use for examples to back up whatever I'm writing about. ('witnesses' as found in Matt 18.16 & Deut 19.15)


Some responses to it were shocking, for throwing a torch on these wicked works of darkness.

One local response of choo choo was a 'deep exegesis' of Num 14.26-29, where he attacked my character (always the way of it, reactionarily, by the pricked, born again, humanist idolater as I'd already said in that blog post) and ended up literally putting himself in the position of the Lord almighty in that passage. That's one way to respond to seeing himself and his team in the list of devil-influenced Christian behaviors I suppose. Hi Tyrus! your master is showing! (Ezekiel 28.11-19)

Which come to think of it, Steven Furtik did recently, as when a demon speaks through them they say the stuff Satan thinks (Isa 14.14 in this case) he declared himself God on stage as proven here (where its bad when fellow devil possessed character James White even gets at him! - and if that news shocks you, tell me what spirit came from him <Job 26.4> in this opening statement) and notice the devil inside him cant call Israel a prince either! (Gen 32.28, Ezek 37.25) Now, megachurch types aren't strange to this sort of thing as it was Kenneth Copeland that convinced me of the existence of reptilians. I mean seriously, doesn't the skin hanging off his face with his black eyes not remind anyone else of this guy? (Jude 1.12 - remember a 'twice dead tree' is a fallen angel!- Rev 12.9, Job 1.6)


Amazing conncetion to the megachurch apostates when, I kid you not, the local fundy that did a 'Furtik' also recently turned into Joel Olsteen after being pricked by this same author and started quoting him too. (Prov 16.18) Another example of the devil possessed Christian, on down the slide that happens in Ezek 14.1-11 due to pride. (Prov 16.18) I'm guessing Paula whites next.


Another crowd doubled down on their desperate attempts to show themselves 'working class' (although this was in response to my commentaries, rather than that post - which they certainly did react to as well, but those actions are between me and the Lord) despite that being rooted in the comedic lack of understanding between the difference of being 'stuck-up' (a a feeling of superiority no matter what background) and 'upper class' (where you can be 'down to earth' yet still come from high-class stock) thus in their desperate attempts to shake that 20+ year image they stuck their foot in it and made themselves sound worse. A lot worse. (Ezek 14.1-11, Prov 14.7)


There's a good reason why the Lord will ask what spirit uttered from the Christian at the judgement seat in Job 26.4. I wonder if at the judgment seat will many modern Laodiceans get cut off explaining their-selves by the unclean spirit that has to turn up and and say 'oh yeah, yeah that was me' in the style of 1 Kings 22.19-22.


A Christian who never pleads the blood over himself (1 John 1.7) his house, family, his objects (especially smartphones theyre basically digital ouija boards) literally never washes so gets dirtier and dirtier, carrying the filth of the world with them and spiritual flies hover everywhere. Then eventually the flies start going through him, influencing him.

Make sure to plead that atomic-level washing agent (Acts 20.28) do it when you remember, saved reader, and pray for it to be brought into your memory so it becomes normal and regular to you. Try reading the words out loud of a King James bible (pick it up and start literally anywhere) when the air needs cleared as well. Although I only think it works for those that believe it to be pure according to 1 Thess 2.13. Walk around reading it and tell me how the place spiritually 'smells' afterwards.


Theres a post office locally, years ago, that when I was unsaved I was creeped out by this character who gave me chills, couldn't explain it, and always hoped in the queue I wouldn't get them at counter, as there was just something off and horrible about them. Despite being 'nice.' (And remember I was the one demon possessed and wicked as sin at the time!) I've since learned knowing what I know now, is that hes a born again, devil-possessed Christian and stopped being so'nice' to me personally shortly after I got saved. Strange that isn't it?


Liberal modernist Christians get more 'worldly spirits' in my experience, which are a different breed of 'genies in the bottle' compared to the pious, Pharisaical, legalistic, self righteous Christians, who are worse for this as their source for self righteousness and devil-possession starts from setting their-selves above the bible and above God. Rather than the liberal who tends to go wherever the world takes them (not that thats any less wicked, per-se, but certainly different) lt's why stuck up legalistic Christians get it the most around these parts as their self righteousness leads them to the same demonic influence as long-term drug and drink addicts and my radar goes ping ping ping with that crowd, being 'familiar spirits' sadly. (Lev 20.6, Isa 8.19, Deut 18.11) This is why self righteousness LEADS TO THE EXACT SAME DEMONIC INFLUENCE AS DRUGS AND DRINK. Saved or lost. Look at number 5 in that list above. I'll add to it. In this social media, self-worshiping humanist generation, you can become just as 'addicted to oneself' despite still doing 'prayer, Bible study, fellowship, witnessing, and other faith building activities'.



Job 26.2-4

How hast thou helped him that is without power?

how savest thou the arm that hath no strength?

How hast thou counselled him that hath no wisdom?

and how hast thou plentifully declared the thing as it is?

To whom hast thou uttered words?

and whose spirit came from thee?


1 Corinthians 3.13

every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.






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King James Bible Believer
King James Bible Believer
Aug 01, 2023

Here’s another good one: https://www.my3bc.com/possessed-by-the-devil/

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Bible Believer TUBE
Bible Believer TUBE
Aug 04, 2023
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Yep it sure is thanks, I'll maybe make a part 2 to include it as I had plenty more to say on my bit up there, but cut it down by about two thirds for sake of size and the spiritual beating it was costing me which was making it disjointed and very hard to concentrate on getting it done.

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